alterego
03-08 05:15 PM
I agree that now their spillover policy is more horizontal than vertical.
Your numbers on EB India visas are fairly close to accurate. 2008 will be very skewed in EB India's direction. It is just that the demand is even more greater than that.
Those H1b numbers for last year were really an eye opener for me. Sadly unless they decide to treat those issues in tandem, ie cap both or uncap both, this issue is only destined to get worse, recession or no recession.
On your point about the data not backing up people returning, that issue is multi-dimentional. Sure, if you have come here laid down roots, bought a house, have kids in school etc, you will have a higher tolerance for this crap, but we are in a new phase here, where we have people who came here legally and are now seeing unprecedented retrogression in EB immigration. There is no precedent for this in EB immigration, even pre-Ac21 the retrogression was not as severe. When was the last time EB2 had sustained retrogression over 5 yrs for that long? EB3 for 8 yrs sustained? Additionally those factors I mentioned are real, US citizen kids, eligibility for benefits base on accumulated SS credits etc. The US will eventually have to come to terms with those issues as will the immigrants.
Also newer immigrants will have reason for pause in their decisions. Some(the best ones) may not come, others that come will repatriate their savings, will not buy homes, etc. All of that represents behavior that would not be in the US interest. Of course I am not sure US lawmakers think that deep, but just saying.
Your numbers on EB India visas are fairly close to accurate. 2008 will be very skewed in EB India's direction. It is just that the demand is even more greater than that.
Those H1b numbers for last year were really an eye opener for me. Sadly unless they decide to treat those issues in tandem, ie cap both or uncap both, this issue is only destined to get worse, recession or no recession.
On your point about the data not backing up people returning, that issue is multi-dimentional. Sure, if you have come here laid down roots, bought a house, have kids in school etc, you will have a higher tolerance for this crap, but we are in a new phase here, where we have people who came here legally and are now seeing unprecedented retrogression in EB immigration. There is no precedent for this in EB immigration, even pre-Ac21 the retrogression was not as severe. When was the last time EB2 had sustained retrogression over 5 yrs for that long? EB3 for 8 yrs sustained? Additionally those factors I mentioned are real, US citizen kids, eligibility for benefits base on accumulated SS credits etc. The US will eventually have to come to terms with those issues as will the immigrants.
Also newer immigrants will have reason for pause in their decisions. Some(the best ones) may not come, others that come will repatriate their savings, will not buy homes, etc. All of that represents behavior that would not be in the US interest. Of course I am not sure US lawmakers think that deep, but just saying.
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GCwaitforever
12-12 06:17 PM
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Asking help from Senator Sessions for your G-card is like asking help from Bil Ladan to wipe out islamic terrorism. I w'd be extremely curious to read his reponse if you get one at all.
This guy was talking about benefits of legal immigration and introducing Canada/Australia style G-card system only a few weeks ago when law makers were discussing illegal immigration. When it came to legal immigration, then he stood against it like a wall of ice. Talk of people using divide and rule, he is the perfect example of that.
On a sad note, it seems even Dems are doing the same thing. When Cornyn wanted to put our bill in India Nuke bill, Joe Biden said dems will take that up along with CIR next jan. Same old game of promises and betrayal. Now even dems will not be taking up CIR next year as this has been turned into a very sentimental issue now by Lou dobbs and his xenophobic racist gang. Did not you see Nancy Pelosi's agenda for january? They are worried about their presidential and house races in 2008 and don't want to take any chance. Harry Reid might say this is one of the first things on his agenda next year and Tad Kennedy and McCain might keep meeting and talking over a cup of tea, but we have seen all this drama so many times that it does not thrill us any more.
Bottomline, we are not needed the way we used to be in '70s and '80's and so be contended with the current pace of g-card processing. If you have patience and luck, stay here, else leave.
Thanks for your advice. The intent of the letter is to show a different perspective to Senator Sessions. Nothing more or nothig less. He said he did not receive any feedback from legal immigrants. Fine, we say here it comes. If he continues to block legal immigration reform bills, he has to find another pretext, not "no feedback from immigrants".
There is always a rational side in every human being. Senator Sessions is smart. Let us hope Senator Sessions surprises us by bringing his own version of EB immigration reform.
Asking help from Senator Sessions for your G-card is like asking help from Bil Ladan to wipe out islamic terrorism. I w'd be extremely curious to read his reponse if you get one at all.
This guy was talking about benefits of legal immigration and introducing Canada/Australia style G-card system only a few weeks ago when law makers were discussing illegal immigration. When it came to legal immigration, then he stood against it like a wall of ice. Talk of people using divide and rule, he is the perfect example of that.
On a sad note, it seems even Dems are doing the same thing. When Cornyn wanted to put our bill in India Nuke bill, Joe Biden said dems will take that up along with CIR next jan. Same old game of promises and betrayal. Now even dems will not be taking up CIR next year as this has been turned into a very sentimental issue now by Lou dobbs and his xenophobic racist gang. Did not you see Nancy Pelosi's agenda for january? They are worried about their presidential and house races in 2008 and don't want to take any chance. Harry Reid might say this is one of the first things on his agenda next year and Tad Kennedy and McCain might keep meeting and talking over a cup of tea, but we have seen all this drama so many times that it does not thrill us any more.
Bottomline, we are not needed the way we used to be in '70s and '80's and so be contended with the current pace of g-card processing. If you have patience and luck, stay here, else leave.
Thanks for your advice. The intent of the letter is to show a different perspective to Senator Sessions. Nothing more or nothig less. He said he did not receive any feedback from legal immigrants. Fine, we say here it comes. If he continues to block legal immigration reform bills, he has to find another pretext, not "no feedback from immigrants".
There is always a rational side in every human being. Senator Sessions is smart. Let us hope Senator Sessions surprises us by bringing his own version of EB immigration reform.
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03-26 05:15 PM
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logiclife
06-20 10:33 AM
No one has to do a vote on scrapping CIR. The absence of any activity towards appointing a conference committee and scheduling a conference committee to reconcile differences between House immigration reform bill(HR 4437) and Senate immigration reform bill (S 2611) would cause both bills to stay as-is in house and senate respectively without making any progress towards becoming a law.
No one has to formalize this. Not working on it is good enough to kill reform. I dont think anyone is going to come out and say "CIR is dead". However, if house and senate leadership indicate that "we need more time to read Senate's bill", or we need more time to understand and "Hold hearings" etc, its evident that they want to throw roadblocks and postpone it. Which is the same as pushing the bill to its grave.
No one has to formalize this. Not working on it is good enough to kill reform. I dont think anyone is going to come out and say "CIR is dead". However, if house and senate leadership indicate that "we need more time to read Senate's bill", or we need more time to understand and "Hold hearings" etc, its evident that they want to throw roadblocks and postpone it. Which is the same as pushing the bill to its grave.
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Mehul
11-21 03:40 AM
Gurus,
I have a unique position. couple of weeks back I was told that have fatal cancer and won't live pass 4-6 months. After recovering from initial shock I am wondering if my wife will be able to continue her american dream or she will have to head home after me.
I have filed 485 with approved 140 back in june, 2007 with PD of March, 2003
Please help.
Mehul
I have a unique position. couple of weeks back I was told that have fatal cancer and won't live pass 4-6 months. After recovering from initial shock I am wondering if my wife will be able to continue her american dream or she will have to head home after me.
I have filed 485 with approved 140 back in june, 2007 with PD of March, 2003
Please help.
Mehul
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spulapa
02-02 01:12 PM
[QUOTE=shreekhand;2310147]Nobody is holding them back and that is the very reason they are planning to go back... got it ?
Your rant in the post of all things, especially about the caste system seems like the half baked knowledge of a westerner bloating and carrying the caste "issue" to stratospheric levels!
I don't from what area in India exposed you to your experiences, but apart from the ridiculous reservations and quota system, there have been no caste related issues that I or my family faced while in western India. Be it working with people from all castes, making friends with them or really helping the neglected. This was the case with my neighbors or any relatives.
This shows how ignorant you are about the most prevailing and backward situation in INDIA. Unfortunately the above comments show you like the cat drinking the milk closing eyes thinking nobody is watching her.
Do you even know why the quota system was introduced. it is a different thing that it is not being utilized the way it had to be put into use. You are just from western part of India don't speak as though you are from western part of the world. I guess you don't watch the news where they speak about the various atrocities done on the backward class by the forward class. I feel sorry for your ignorance that is all I can do. When possible go to any NGO social service people and ask about caste system and they will give you ample stories which might shatter your belief. What I agreed with the fellow IV member was on a different issue and I acknowledge the fact that things are wrong in each part of the world and every country has its own share of issues. Just like nobody is perfect not every place is perfect. But not acknowledging the fact that something is so widely prevalent in India just shows how far as an individual you are away from reality.
Peace.
Your rant in the post of all things, especially about the caste system seems like the half baked knowledge of a westerner bloating and carrying the caste "issue" to stratospheric levels!
I don't from what area in India exposed you to your experiences, but apart from the ridiculous reservations and quota system, there have been no caste related issues that I or my family faced while in western India. Be it working with people from all castes, making friends with them or really helping the neglected. This was the case with my neighbors or any relatives.
This shows how ignorant you are about the most prevailing and backward situation in INDIA. Unfortunately the above comments show you like the cat drinking the milk closing eyes thinking nobody is watching her.
Do you even know why the quota system was introduced. it is a different thing that it is not being utilized the way it had to be put into use. You are just from western part of India don't speak as though you are from western part of the world. I guess you don't watch the news where they speak about the various atrocities done on the backward class by the forward class. I feel sorry for your ignorance that is all I can do. When possible go to any NGO social service people and ask about caste system and they will give you ample stories which might shatter your belief. What I agreed with the fellow IV member was on a different issue and I acknowledge the fact that things are wrong in each part of the world and every country has its own share of issues. Just like nobody is perfect not every place is perfect. But not acknowledging the fact that something is so widely prevalent in India just shows how far as an individual you are away from reality.
Peace.
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glus
05-23 11:50 AM
Guys,
E-mails are good, but if you can fax them too:
Fax numbers to key senators in DC offices:
Clinton: 202-228-2082
Schumer: 202-228-3027
Lott: 202-224-2262
Reid: 202-224-7327
Cornyn: 202-228-2856
Hagel: 202-224-5213
Martinez: 202-228-5171
McConnell: 202-224-2499
Obama: 202-228-4260
Kennedy: 202-224-2417
E-mails are good, but if you can fax them too:
Fax numbers to key senators in DC offices:
Clinton: 202-228-2082
Schumer: 202-228-3027
Lott: 202-224-2262
Reid: 202-224-7327
Cornyn: 202-228-2856
Hagel: 202-224-5213
Martinez: 202-228-5171
McConnell: 202-224-2499
Obama: 202-228-4260
Kennedy: 202-224-2417
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05-23 04:35 PM
Sent email to 2+10 senators.
Thanks, please also webfax. It is just one click.
Thanks, please also webfax. It is just one click.
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psaxena
09-11 12:01 PM
Pappu,
I think we should have the count of donors on the top of every page like we have the donation bar. This will give the way to see how many donors are there and then set the target to get more donors.
The shepherd has to get a bit more strict to direct the herd of sheeps.
Well said and I think the community cannot just always get, they have to learn to GIVE back (for their own cause) in this case.
It is atrocious to see people demanding action when their own contribution is ZERO (infact negative by wasting the precious bandwidth and creating divisions)
I think we should have the count of donors on the top of every page like we have the donation bar. This will give the way to see how many donors are there and then set the target to get more donors.
The shepherd has to get a bit more strict to direct the herd of sheeps.
Well said and I think the community cannot just always get, they have to learn to GIVE back (for their own cause) in this case.
It is atrocious to see people demanding action when their own contribution is ZERO (infact negative by wasting the precious bandwidth and creating divisions)
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nozerd
03-09 10:03 PM
I have a similar story. I have also been here since 1991 in status all these yrs and still without a GC. Here is my timeline.
1991 -1996: Came to US as undergrad. Worked my way through school. Full time job and full time studies. 4 yrs course took me 5 yrs as I never took summers so I can earn my fees.
1996-1998: Finished Masters.
1999 : Got my job in my current company on OPT as entry level analyst. Later that year went on H1.
2001 : Firm filed for Labor certification. Their reqt was 2 yrs work before applying for GC. Reputable American firm.
2005 : Labor certification approved.
2006 : I 140 filed and approved. Got 8-11 yr H1 extension. Still waiting for GC due to retro. Thinking of moving to Canada.
And yes in the 8 yrs I have been with my company I have got 3 promotions and am now a Manager. My companys immigration lawyer said thats ok. He just joked that when you get your green card just make sure you get tripple demotion to new role.
So when new kids on the block (<5 yrs in US) talk about GC process being screwed up, I say pick a number and wait in line. The closest example to this feeling is waiting to go to the restroom when you live in a slum and there is line of 100 ppl ahead of you to use the loo and you have loose motions :)
another story:
i have a close friend who has been here since 1991 with no GC. he came for his undergraduate studies in 1991..finished that...got a good job...met a girl...got married...girl was also an undergrad here then went to grad school...then lost his job..girl was still in school...lost almost everything
then he built his life back..got a job....started working his way up...girl graduated..worked in a small company and then changed jobs..started gc process for the 3rd time...luckily got ead and ap....girl changed jobs...bought a house...retrogression happened....and hes still waiting
can u beat that...hes been here for 16 years.
putting off decisions is very easy when it comes to gc...many times u just need to bite the bullet and live ur life. dont get me wrong.. i have put off getting my h1b stamped for over 3 yrs...havent been out of the country for 5 yrs...now i have decided its not worth it and will do it sometime this yr.
like russell peter's chinese person says "be a man...do the right thing"
1991 -1996: Came to US as undergrad. Worked my way through school. Full time job and full time studies. 4 yrs course took me 5 yrs as I never took summers so I can earn my fees.
1996-1998: Finished Masters.
1999 : Got my job in my current company on OPT as entry level analyst. Later that year went on H1.
2001 : Firm filed for Labor certification. Their reqt was 2 yrs work before applying for GC. Reputable American firm.
2005 : Labor certification approved.
2006 : I 140 filed and approved. Got 8-11 yr H1 extension. Still waiting for GC due to retro. Thinking of moving to Canada.
And yes in the 8 yrs I have been with my company I have got 3 promotions and am now a Manager. My companys immigration lawyer said thats ok. He just joked that when you get your green card just make sure you get tripple demotion to new role.
So when new kids on the block (<5 yrs in US) talk about GC process being screwed up, I say pick a number and wait in line. The closest example to this feeling is waiting to go to the restroom when you live in a slum and there is line of 100 ppl ahead of you to use the loo and you have loose motions :)
another story:
i have a close friend who has been here since 1991 with no GC. he came for his undergraduate studies in 1991..finished that...got a good job...met a girl...got married...girl was also an undergrad here then went to grad school...then lost his job..girl was still in school...lost almost everything
then he built his life back..got a job....started working his way up...girl graduated..worked in a small company and then changed jobs..started gc process for the 3rd time...luckily got ead and ap....girl changed jobs...bought a house...retrogression happened....and hes still waiting
can u beat that...hes been here for 16 years.
putting off decisions is very easy when it comes to gc...many times u just need to bite the bullet and live ur life. dont get me wrong.. i have put off getting my h1b stamped for over 3 yrs...havent been out of the country for 5 yrs...now i have decided its not worth it and will do it sometime this yr.
like russell peter's chinese person says "be a man...do the right thing"
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06-23 11:20 AM
Can an employer revoke the I-140 after 180 days of I-485 pending?
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10-12 03:27 PM
My special Thanks to Mr. Prakash and Ms Windy for raising the issue with USCIS Rep Ms. Debra Roger.
Please don't miss this chance:
Please send details to CIS Ombudsman office with scaned delivery Proof for pending applications. Please mail him all the details. He want to see the trend. No efforts are useless. Not for today nor for future.
USCIS is again not admitting that they are not following the FIFO and per USCIS, we should have got our EAD by now also. :D
Can you please give some details on sending delivery notices to CIS Ombudsman office. Address ? Fax ?
Please don't miss this chance:
Please send details to CIS Ombudsman office with scaned delivery Proof for pending applications. Please mail him all the details. He want to see the trend. No efforts are useless. Not for today nor for future.
USCIS is again not admitting that they are not following the FIFO and per USCIS, we should have got our EAD by now also. :D
Can you please give some details on sending delivery notices to CIS Ombudsman office. Address ? Fax ?
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nk2006
10-25 12:23 PM
Yes, but the immigration hearings already happened. People already have a clear indication on what the public wants. Lou Dobbs is still out there reminding them. Honestly, I wish us good luck, but I am not sure.
Seems like you are indicating that public clearly against CIR: on what basis you are saying that. There was no referendum and even an election after the CIR debate. Most of the opinion polls are evenly split: if I remember correctly a popular opinion poll said that most Americans want to solve the immigration issue and they also are fine with putting illegal immigrants on path to citizenship. They also want to have more border security provisions � most of these aspects are covered in CIR. Of course illegal immigration issue is controversial and CIR may never succeed in its current form irrespective of who is in control of congress. A democrat leading congress may not venture into too controversial aspects of immigration fearing a backlash during presidential elections. The backlash they fear is energizing the extreme right wing. A republican leading congress anyway won�t pass CIR bill.
That�s why our best bet is SKILL bill � this is relatively non-controversial, good for American industry, and supported by different groups. Of course it is very difficult.
Not sure if such an important bill will be taken up during lame-duck session. In fact the outgoing house members may actually push for some aggressive border security measures to make the process even longer than it is now. So yes�.I too wish us good luck we do need it a lot.
Seems like you are indicating that public clearly against CIR: on what basis you are saying that. There was no referendum and even an election after the CIR debate. Most of the opinion polls are evenly split: if I remember correctly a popular opinion poll said that most Americans want to solve the immigration issue and they also are fine with putting illegal immigrants on path to citizenship. They also want to have more border security provisions � most of these aspects are covered in CIR. Of course illegal immigration issue is controversial and CIR may never succeed in its current form irrespective of who is in control of congress. A democrat leading congress may not venture into too controversial aspects of immigration fearing a backlash during presidential elections. The backlash they fear is energizing the extreme right wing. A republican leading congress anyway won�t pass CIR bill.
That�s why our best bet is SKILL bill � this is relatively non-controversial, good for American industry, and supported by different groups. Of course it is very difficult.
Not sure if such an important bill will be taken up during lame-duck session. In fact the outgoing house members may actually push for some aggressive border security measures to make the process even longer than it is now. So yes�.I too wish us good luck we do need it a lot.
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willigetagc
11-21 01:49 PM
Mehul,
I am sitting here wondering what to say...My gut feeling says that you will make it through and you still have 6 months to turn the whole situation around.
But, first get your hands on this movie and watch it... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_b1GKGWJbE8
It is on a book called "The Secret" by Rhonda Byrne. Watch the movie and start believing in yourself and go for whatever treatment is available.
You will make it bro..
I am sitting here wondering what to say...My gut feeling says that you will make it through and you still have 6 months to turn the whole situation around.
But, first get your hands on this movie and watch it... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_b1GKGWJbE8
It is on a book called "The Secret" by Rhonda Byrne. Watch the movie and start believing in yourself and go for whatever treatment is available.
You will make it bro..
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jthomas
12-17 07:54 PM
I read and hear the same thing over and over again, NO SAVINGS,
It is also true for me, NO SAVINGS, We all earn a better salary from others since we are high level professionals, born from a indian family. Where are we wrong.
my first 3 years used to save money, from last 3 years i have no savings. better lifestyle than india. Canadian green card backed up. paid paid money to immigration lawyers for US and canada. , NO US education. Helped friends and relatives financially. Setup a business in india, just doing Okay.
Now i am thinking is it worth staying in US away from parents.
1. Good health (which we often take for granted)
YEs
2. US born kids (at least they are citizens, if that's important to you)
Not married no kids
3. US education (a different experience for sure)
No us education
4. Good savings (all said and done, your bank balance is very important no matter where you stay in the world)
No savings no big salary
5. Good work experience (this is transferable and more or less ensures a decent future)
Yeah just started career
6. Loving/caring family/friends (who will always love you the same and couldn't care less about GC or citizenship)
Dont know about that
Been herr from 7 years..
It is also true for me, NO SAVINGS, We all earn a better salary from others since we are high level professionals, born from a indian family. Where are we wrong.
my first 3 years used to save money, from last 3 years i have no savings. better lifestyle than india. Canadian green card backed up. paid paid money to immigration lawyers for US and canada. , NO US education. Helped friends and relatives financially. Setup a business in india, just doing Okay.
Now i am thinking is it worth staying in US away from parents.
1. Good health (which we often take for granted)
YEs
2. US born kids (at least they are citizens, if that's important to you)
Not married no kids
3. US education (a different experience for sure)
No us education
4. Good savings (all said and done, your bank balance is very important no matter where you stay in the world)
No savings no big salary
5. Good work experience (this is transferable and more or less ensures a decent future)
Yeah just started career
6. Loving/caring family/friends (who will always love you the same and couldn't care less about GC or citizenship)
Dont know about that
Been herr from 7 years..
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aquarianf
04-23 03:39 PM
This guy is a deshi employer. He is on H1 so he is a silent partner & that why scratching his head.
There are attorneys who will charge only after recovering money. The stupid employer can be sued for lost wages along with civil penalties from which the attorney's fee will be paid.
You can view my past posts in IV, I am not Desi employer but I may become very soon to employ myself (very close to get GC :-) )
Anyway have you gone through yourself with same situation/tension as OP going through or do you know someone closely who have gone through? Have you dealt with attorney yourself?
If that employer sue you, definitely you can counter sue for violation of wage related or h1b related rules and attorney will be the best person to advice you on that. make sure you go to an attorney who practice employement laws and have knowledge or have some other attorney in the same firm who deals in immi related matter. But question is, do you want to go through nightmare of law suites or you just want peace of mind.
There are attorneys who will charge only after recovering money. The stupid employer can be sued for lost wages along with civil penalties from which the attorney's fee will be paid.
You can view my past posts in IV, I am not Desi employer but I may become very soon to employ myself (very close to get GC :-) )
Anyway have you gone through yourself with same situation/tension as OP going through or do you know someone closely who have gone through? Have you dealt with attorney yourself?
If that employer sue you, definitely you can counter sue for violation of wage related or h1b related rules and attorney will be the best person to advice you on that. make sure you go to an attorney who practice employement laws and have knowledge or have some other attorney in the same firm who deals in immi related matter. But question is, do you want to go through nightmare of law suites or you just want peace of mind.
GC_Fever
09-14 06:17 PM
Just for everyone's info, I received all my receipt notices(485,EAD,AP) today including for my wife and son. Applications were received at NSC on July 3rd and finally transferred to TSC because my I-140 was approved from there in Nov 2006. I saw a LUD on approved I-140 on 8/5/07. My checks were not cashed until 8/31 when my attorney last checked. My guess is that these were cashed around 1st week of sept.
One important thing I want to mention that my attorney hadn't filled in my A# from I-140 into I-485. He entered it as "None" and I was worried of any negative effect, but USCIS correctly figured it out and mentioned this no. on all my receipt notices.
However, they mixed up the nos. for my son and wife's receipts. My wife's 485 receipt has my son's A#. My attorney went ahead and contacted USCIS right away.
I hope everyone get receipts soon.
One important thing I want to mention that my attorney hadn't filled in my A# from I-140 into I-485. He entered it as "None" and I was worried of any negative effect, but USCIS correctly figured it out and mentioned this no. on all my receipt notices.
However, they mixed up the nos. for my son and wife's receipts. My wife's 485 receipt has my son's A#. My attorney went ahead and contacted USCIS right away.
I hope everyone get receipts soon.
eb3retro
05-02 11:09 AM
Can anyone tell us if this bill also has the hard cap limit??
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