pyaradesi
07-20 10:02 PM
I have a question reg. the unfair vertical spill devised by USCIS when allocating the visa numbers after the initial allocation is completed.
If the country needs EB1 categories first then the EB2 categories and then EB3 then why did they allocate equal numbers to all the three categories initially. If they needed more EB1 or EB 2 compared to EB 3 numbers they should have given 3x of numbers to EB1, 2x of numbers to EB2, and only 1x or less than that to EB3 when doing the initial allocation itself.
Its only due to some genius person's invention that USCIS decided to implement vertical spill over instead of doing a hoirzontal spill over of the numbers which will be fair.
Now the EB2 folks are going to comeback and say that EB2 deserve more rights and all that blah blah aka the fight people give whenever somebody tries to remove the unfair quota system in India. Grow up and behave like an educated person.
You can say that EB2 folks earn more... give me a break I know many EB3 folks who earn atleast 2 times more than whan an average EB2 guy earns. Its just a matter of luck(in the current scenario) that a person got applied in EB2 or EB3 category
You are taking it personally, this is not a question of you being skilled, deserving, fair skinned, blue eyed, or hairless. Why not all the spillover to to the family based gcs?
Think of it, uniting families is more important for a nation.
Why do you think even in the FB there are categories, how come there is not a quota for spouses of US citizens?
You are either not qualified for EB2 or your job is not qualified for EB2, now whose fault is it? Again, its not how much you earn, it is not how lucky you are. The EB category was not some boon, your HR manager, your lawyer, your manager came together and made the decision, last but not least your agreed to all this. EB2 is not some elitist club, you are welcome to join it, go talk to your HR manager, he controls the membership.
If the country needs EB1 categories first then the EB2 categories and then EB3 then why did they allocate equal numbers to all the three categories initially. If they needed more EB1 or EB 2 compared to EB 3 numbers they should have given 3x of numbers to EB1, 2x of numbers to EB2, and only 1x or less than that to EB3 when doing the initial allocation itself.
Its only due to some genius person's invention that USCIS decided to implement vertical spill over instead of doing a hoirzontal spill over of the numbers which will be fair.
Now the EB2 folks are going to comeback and say that EB2 deserve more rights and all that blah blah aka the fight people give whenever somebody tries to remove the unfair quota system in India. Grow up and behave like an educated person.
You can say that EB2 folks earn more... give me a break I know many EB3 folks who earn atleast 2 times more than whan an average EB2 guy earns. Its just a matter of luck(in the current scenario) that a person got applied in EB2 or EB3 category
You are taking it personally, this is not a question of you being skilled, deserving, fair skinned, blue eyed, or hairless. Why not all the spillover to to the family based gcs?
Think of it, uniting families is more important for a nation.
Why do you think even in the FB there are categories, how come there is not a quota for spouses of US citizens?
You are either not qualified for EB2 or your job is not qualified for EB2, now whose fault is it? Again, its not how much you earn, it is not how lucky you are. The EB category was not some boon, your HR manager, your lawyer, your manager came together and made the decision, last but not least your agreed to all this. EB2 is not some elitist club, you are welcome to join it, go talk to your HR manager, he controls the membership.
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desi3933
07-08 01:20 PM
Your perspectives go well beyond what an average immigrant thinks about the whole EB system.
I have seen people "NOT" being themselves and do everything at workplace ONLY because their GC is pending and they do not want to have issues with employer for the sake of GC.
In my opinion, which also complements urs, the whole employment thing - if viewed from the eyes of a common man - one whose immigration status is not tied up with employer, is completely different.
I have seen people facing cultural issues, community issues and a wide range of issues - such things get masked when one's focus is on the GC process, heck leave alone GC - people struggle for even getting h1b and maintaining it.
It all comes down to priorities. If someone's aim to have GC at any cost, he/she will do everything to get to the finish line -- i.e. 180 days past I-485. In my opinion, GC process should be part of life, and it should not hijack 100% of time of highly skilled professional. No wonder, we see so many posts where person is waiting for AC-21 so as to get rid of "blood-sucking employer". For a neutral person, both employee and employer are using system to suit their needs.
Some people will go the extent of using term "slavery", whereas, actually, their thought process is slaved to the GC process.
And, employers know this very well and try to use to their advantage.
A lot of people I talk to who come fresh out of school or have 2 years of experience or so, think that they have certain skills and employers would not live without them - whereas it is THEIR struggle to maintain h1b and also work towards GC on long run. All this is nothing but lack of thought process that people must apply but will not because their primary aim is to work out a sponsor.
>> have 2 years of experience or so, think that they have certain skills and employers would not live without them
You have described it very well. I have met many of such professionals while interviewing them for jobs. But, the reality is, these same professionals are scraed of their jobs being outsourced.
Some are simple cookie cutter prgrammers and compare themselves to reasearch scientists and technologically superior.
Another thing, I have noticed is that while on H-1B, vast majority of professionals claim that they are getting paid prevaling wages, but, on the other hand, they also claim they can make upto 50% more, if they had EAD or green card. Ironic! Isn't it.
I am not blaming an employee or employer for this but this entire EB based system is set up in that way.
You are right. These are the rules set by current EB immigration system.
With this so called "exploitation" by whole Employment Based Immigrations, these professionals turn blind eye to whole thing after getting Green Card. Afterall they are, rightly, professionals.
How many times we see any green card holder or citizen supporting fellow immigrants?
H1 does not care for F1.
EAD does not care for H1/F1.
GC holder does not care for EAD/H1/F1
Citizens wonder why immigration level is so high.
Taking a quote from MTV Roadies program, each professional (roadie) is alone and has to look after his own best interests.
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I have seen people "NOT" being themselves and do everything at workplace ONLY because their GC is pending and they do not want to have issues with employer for the sake of GC.
In my opinion, which also complements urs, the whole employment thing - if viewed from the eyes of a common man - one whose immigration status is not tied up with employer, is completely different.
I have seen people facing cultural issues, community issues and a wide range of issues - such things get masked when one's focus is on the GC process, heck leave alone GC - people struggle for even getting h1b and maintaining it.
It all comes down to priorities. If someone's aim to have GC at any cost, he/she will do everything to get to the finish line -- i.e. 180 days past I-485. In my opinion, GC process should be part of life, and it should not hijack 100% of time of highly skilled professional. No wonder, we see so many posts where person is waiting for AC-21 so as to get rid of "blood-sucking employer". For a neutral person, both employee and employer are using system to suit their needs.
Some people will go the extent of using term "slavery", whereas, actually, their thought process is slaved to the GC process.
And, employers know this very well and try to use to their advantage.
A lot of people I talk to who come fresh out of school or have 2 years of experience or so, think that they have certain skills and employers would not live without them - whereas it is THEIR struggle to maintain h1b and also work towards GC on long run. All this is nothing but lack of thought process that people must apply but will not because their primary aim is to work out a sponsor.
>> have 2 years of experience or so, think that they have certain skills and employers would not live without them
You have described it very well. I have met many of such professionals while interviewing them for jobs. But, the reality is, these same professionals are scraed of their jobs being outsourced.
Some are simple cookie cutter prgrammers and compare themselves to reasearch scientists and technologically superior.
Another thing, I have noticed is that while on H-1B, vast majority of professionals claim that they are getting paid prevaling wages, but, on the other hand, they also claim they can make upto 50% more, if they had EAD or green card. Ironic! Isn't it.
I am not blaming an employee or employer for this but this entire EB based system is set up in that way.
You are right. These are the rules set by current EB immigration system.
With this so called "exploitation" by whole Employment Based Immigrations, these professionals turn blind eye to whole thing after getting Green Card. Afterall they are, rightly, professionals.
How many times we see any green card holder or citizen supporting fellow immigrants?
H1 does not care for F1.
EAD does not care for H1/F1.
GC holder does not care for EAD/H1/F1
Citizens wonder why immigration level is so high.
Taking a quote from MTV Roadies program, each professional (roadie) is alone and has to look after his own best interests.
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Legal
07-27 11:39 AM
Its unfortunate that you ask us to UNITE and use 'EB2 elitist protectionism' in the same breath. I am not even going down the road of EB3 'smarter' than EB2 because a reverse argument is equally valid if not more. The law as stated above is what it is - there is a clear categorizaton established by law. If there is a level of frustration with it then a campaign to change it makes sense. However any proposed changes that arbitrarily assigns visa numbers just because 'my HR filed it the way it got filed' then you need to check with your HR and port over to EB2 - if you think your private US degree qualifies you for it. The position determines EB2 or EB3 and I'll leave it at that.
I have no problems in people expressing their opinion in an open forum and lobbying for change. The devil is in the detail. If the change means taking the EB2 excess visas to give to EB3 purely based on length of wait then I have every right to present another point of view - elitist protectionism or not.
I have only seen implications to this effect but nobody has come forward and said it plainly - yes we are EB3 and we want the EB2 excess visas because we have waited seven years. Everybody seems to imply it but nobody wants to call it as plainly as I stated it above. I am only presenting a counter to that.
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I have no problems in people expressing their opinion in an open forum and lobbying for change. The devil is in the detail. If the change means taking the EB2 excess visas to give to EB3 purely based on length of wait then I have every right to present another point of view - elitist protectionism or not.
I have only seen implications to this effect but nobody has come forward and said it plainly - yes we are EB3 and we want the EB2 excess visas because we have waited seven years. Everybody seems to imply it but nobody wants to call it as plainly as I stated it above. I am only presenting a counter to that.
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midguy
03-26 12:08 PM
Hi All,
just want estimate and plan ....my PD is 16-June-2003 EB3 India. When can my date will current.
Thank you.
just want estimate and plan ....my PD is 16-June-2003 EB3 India. When can my date will current.
Thank you.
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mrsr
07-04 06:02 PM
I am not sure why we will they hold?
reddog
06-08 12:50 AM
Sent May 31st to arrive June 1st - no receipt number yet. My laywer said it will take about 10 days to get receipt...
noob question: your signature states a PD of 4/04 and EB3.
How can you file your I485 now?
Am i the only one not up to date?
noob question: your signature states a PD of 4/04 and EB3.
How can you file your I485 now?
Am i the only one not up to date?
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desidas
01-24 07:06 PM
In this thread there are lot of folks who changed employers using AC21 after 180 days I-485 is pending.
Did they ever travel to thier home country using AP after switching employers from the orginal GC sponsoring employer?
Where they being harassed at Port of Entry by Immigration Officers why siwtched employers and travel on AP?
Please share any experiences
Did they ever travel to thier home country using AP after switching employers from the orginal GC sponsoring employer?
Where they being harassed at Port of Entry by Immigration Officers why siwtched employers and travel on AP?
Please share any experiences
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11-18 09:17 AM
These best and brightest people are idiots. On other website they blindly doing. Shows lack of brains. If sending email will get greencard, then all lobbyist to stop business and only run email company.
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alias
08-18 02:48 PM
You got that right!, so you are going to help out here or what?
Nope, never to you, may be if someone comes out with a more communal goal, then may be, I will oppose anything you do...doesn't matter right or wrong. Call it personal or whatever, I respect people who see the big picture and act responsibly..
Nope, never to you, may be if someone comes out with a more communal goal, then may be, I will oppose anything you do...doesn't matter right or wrong. Call it personal or whatever, I respect people who see the big picture and act responsibly..
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11-30 07:09 PM
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mqualique
05-01 04:01 PM
Thanks
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02-09 08:53 PM
Did you all see Donald Trumps answer to Piers Morgans question in Piers Morgan tonight program on CNN? that was not a surprise, but after his talk about China and India, that was a bit surprising.
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What question and answer?
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sri1309
07-04 07:07 AM
Congratulations to you.
Your 5 year wait is finally over.
Thanks,
Sri..
Your 5 year wait is finally over.
Thanks,
Sri..
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485Mbe4001
12-12 05:44 PM
good call, i hope he replies. Please post the response you receive from the senator on this thread.
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Coming to the SKIL bill and Sen. Sessions, I am mailing my story to him at http://sessions.senate.gov/email/contact.cfm. Hopefully, he will come around and support immigration reform.
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02-26 06:29 PM
Thank You abqguy.
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royus77
08-03 04:55 PM
I called IO today, still no information in system about my I-485 application that I filed June 28. What is funny is they can find my H1 extension that I filed on July 22 ??!!
I asked if my case will be transfered to Texas as my I-140 is approved from Texas, answer: Yes it will transferred to Texas IF they need to. So it is not a must. we will see..
Hello Gc ,
Did you see any change in the update Date on I 140 ?Just want to check when they will update the Date on I 140 when moving from NSC- TSC
I asked if my case will be transfered to Texas as my I-140 is approved from Texas, answer: Yes it will transferred to Texas IF they need to. So it is not a must. we will see..
Hello Gc ,
Did you see any change in the update Date on I 140 ?Just want to check when they will update the Date on I 140 when moving from NSC- TSC
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cram
06-11 10:18 PM
I mailed mine on May 25 and up to now I haven't gotten anything yet. My lawyer mailed it to NSC and since my I-140 is pending with the TSC, my lawyer said they will just forward it there. It's taking too long. Anybody in the same boat as I am?
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11-17 05:36 PM
Sent email to senators and congressman for both me and my wife.
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MeraNaamJoker
08-21 10:48 AM
I think it is around 13 or 14...if they are under that, USCIS only takes a thumb print
I don't think there is a specific age where they will taken finger prints. Read my story.
My 15 yr old was the first to receive the notice. She was not in US at that time. I called the USCIS and informed them about this. They said they will postpone the appointment. But the postponement was only for 2 weeks. With the next notice I went to the local office. The security officer gave me a print out stating that I visited there for this reason. AND ACCORDING TO THAT NOTICE, FINGER PRINTING CAN BE DONE WITHIN 64 DAYS FROM THE ORIGINAL NOTICE. My child came back to US in 60 days and I took her to the local office walk in date. He got finger printed.
The very next week my 9 yr old got the notice. I took another appointment and next day I got a second finer printing notice for my elder one again. I took both of them to the local office and explained the situation. For my second child they did the finger printing and for my elder, they made a stamp on to the latest notice which was not at all clear.
Me and wife was never requested for a second finger printing. We all just got GREENED on August 6th.
I don't think there is a specific age where they will taken finger prints. Read my story.
My 15 yr old was the first to receive the notice. She was not in US at that time. I called the USCIS and informed them about this. They said they will postpone the appointment. But the postponement was only for 2 weeks. With the next notice I went to the local office. The security officer gave me a print out stating that I visited there for this reason. AND ACCORDING TO THAT NOTICE, FINGER PRINTING CAN BE DONE WITHIN 64 DAYS FROM THE ORIGINAL NOTICE. My child came back to US in 60 days and I took her to the local office walk in date. He got finger printed.
The very next week my 9 yr old got the notice. I took another appointment and next day I got a second finer printing notice for my elder one again. I took both of them to the local office and explained the situation. For my second child they did the finger printing and for my elder, they made a stamp on to the latest notice which was not at all clear.
Me and wife was never requested for a second finger printing. We all just got GREENED on August 6th.
simple1
05-01 02:49 PM
Adding dependents/derivative is based on primary�s PD and app status.
Challenge me with a scenario that will have an issue. If someone doesn�t have H4 they will be affected anyways. They will not have additional impact due to this.
Please read INA, I485 application and current VB.
I personally believe none will be affected and left too behind (yes, they will be delayed a bit, they will have AP/EAD to hold on to).
But add the Dependents to that. Now at least you wife is coming with you. Just think if there was no H4 visa.
Challenge me with a scenario that will have an issue. If someone doesn�t have H4 they will be affected anyways. They will not have additional impact due to this.
Please read INA, I485 application and current VB.
I personally believe none will be affected and left too behind (yes, they will be delayed a bit, they will have AP/EAD to hold on to).
But add the Dependents to that. Now at least you wife is coming with you. Just think if there was no H4 visa.
vij
06-15 11:28 AM
Receipts only recieved by lawyer? Will benefeciary get any updates?
I have the same question. who gets the receipts? - only lawyer or both lawyer and benefeciary or both lawyer and employer
I have the same question. who gets the receipts? - only lawyer or both lawyer and benefeciary or both lawyer and employer
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